Okay, we’re working in this advertising agency after college. Yeah, and we have like this big presentation to make to like a client. So, so we’re like brainstorming and all of a sudden, we’re out of paper clips. And so, okay so then I, I say okay, wouldn’t it be great if there was like this like stickem on the back of this paper. So like it would just, if I laid it on top of that other paper, it would just stay, you know, like without a paper clip. Oh, so then you’ve got like this grandfather or this uncle, that has like a paper company or a paper mill, and he’s like really in to it and the rest is history. Oh my God, it is perfect!